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Local gov’ts need funding

January 20, 2013

Our local elected officials have loudly and frequently complained about unfunded mandates for years....

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Stackrat

Jan-21-13 12:43 PM

I thought we were growing vacant rental property and for sale signs.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-21-13 7:23 AM

MrBoB51 Gloversville is GROWING, welfare recipients at least. We let the Y bring in some downtown and now the brand new low income housing in really here... drive by and look at where our tax dollars are going and soon to be flushing in that direction!

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MrBoB51

Jan-20-13 10:15 PM

Local Governments need funding huh? Tell you what, get your f!*&*#g funding from the 80% of my property tax money you throw away for Welfare. You've gotten every friggin penny you're going to get out of me and my neighbors you gutless wonders. Get off your azzes and out of my pockets. If you cant run your local government because of welfare then screw you and your local government. I don't need your sorry butts in my business any more and I certainly don't want you confiscating my money to turn around and gladly give it some worthless p.o.s who couldn't care less that it came from the taxpayers.

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SENSIBLEtax

Jan-20-13 7:48 PM

Farfromcenter brings up a good point with regards to making sure Medicaid funds aren't wasted, but I think NY has done a very good job in scrutinizing hospitals and doctors sometimes overcharging the State for Medicaid, which effectively means overcharging the taxpayers.

You know that little hospital in Amsterdam that was just in the news for being awarded some grant money? Well a few years ago they were audited by the State Medicaid Inspector General and found to have overcharged Medicaid by $2,300,000 over what I believe was a three-year period.

$2.3 million! But they did a very good job in making sure the press never got a hold of that story.

I can provide the link to the official report if anyone wants.

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Knickman

Jan-20-13 5:38 PM

Actually, Mrbob51, the triborough amendment needs to go. that article has to do with pay increases for teachers. I am not saying teachers should not get raises, its just costly to give raises particularly in a bad economy as this article requires.

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MrBoB51

Jan-20-13 12:38 PM

Good point Knickman. As you alluded to WE are the state and we have run out of money. Here are my 2 suggestions. Immediate 50% cut in all Social Services, that reduces one large unfunded mandate on property taxes 40%. De-certify NYS Teachers Union, that will free up nearly 80% of School budgets. That makes too much carefully chosen sense.

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Farfromcenter

Jan-20-13 12:35 PM

I don't think the answer is more state aid, I think the answer is less spending. Medicaid alone in Fulton county cost local taxpayers over $14,000,00.00 per year, I say cut the services to be equal to a low cost HMO and no transportation( does your insurance pay for transportation to and from your doctor appts.?) I think all the social welfare programs need to be scrutinized for waste.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-20-13 9:39 AM

So just who is targeted with this and all the legislation that has recently been forced on us? It is the taxpayers that pay every single one of these generous mandates and bills that they pass. I believe that Obama said that he would not sign a bill that "had a bunch of pork in it" or one that would "add one single dime to the deficit." Times change and so does his "balanced approach" to handling our deficit problem. Debt ceiling and spending cuts about 5 weeks away... I could do without it but hey it has to be done.

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taxtired

Jan-20-13 8:47 AM

Maybe we could start with the government and the unions that represent them. Just a thought.

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Knickman

Jan-20-13 8:20 AM

The most expensive mandate is social services or welfare. The state I believe is supposed to take some of this over gradually over several years. Watch them put it off when they find they don't have the money to do it. The most serious problem with welfare is that there are too many on it that are able bodied and will not work for minimum wage when they can get as much sitting to home. Unfortunately, these people vote for the politicians that allow them to continue to live on the dole. Another mandate that was placed on Fulton county which caused controversy is the requirement for a night nurse at the jail, when an on call nurse could be called in if needed. This costs money. I am sure there are many other mandates that the state could eliminate or could somehow reduce to save money. Remember, the school districts are in the same boat. I would encourage readers of this commentary to come up with specific suggestions and post them here.

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MrBoB51

Jan-20-13 7:53 AM

I'm shocked. Years of complaining and still no relief. Harsh language isn't working, waiting for somebody else to put a stop to this unfunded mandate garbage sure isn't working. Relying on local governments to step up and do right by their constituents is a pipe-dream. We are on our own. I have often suggested not paying the mandate line on our tax bills. That would cause a very different set of problems but can it be worse than it is now? Any suggestions?

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