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City asks for order to silence attorney

Lawyer for former city clerk to appeal

By RODNEY MINOR, The Leader-Herald
POSTED: May 13, 2008

GLOVERSVILLE — The city is trying to stop Gary Margiotta’s attorney from releasing deposition testimony gathered during the former city clerk’s wrongful-termination lawsuit.

Attorneys from Albany-based Girvin & Ferlazzo, which represents the city, also want to stop Margiotta’s lawyer, Elmer Robert Keach III, from revealing information he’s been gathering that is not considered a “public document” under state law.

The city is seeking the protective order from U.S. District Court in Utica.

Margiotta was escorted by a police officer from City Hall Dec. 29, 2006. In January 2007, four members of the Common Council voted not to reappoint Margiotta.

In the lawsuit Margiotta later filed, Keach alleges Mayor Tim Hughes and members of the Common Council had

Margiotta removed in order to silence former 4th Ward Councilwoman Shirley Savage. Keach contends the people who had Margiotta removed believed he was helping Savage in her attempts to get information about city programs and issues.

The lawsuit is in the “discovery” phase, where both sides are gathering information that can be used in court.

As part of the process, Keach has taken deposition testimony from Savage, Margiotta, Robin Walrath, chairwoman of the city ethics commission, and Councilman-at-Large James Handy.

Last month, Keach released the deposition given by Handy.

According to court documents filed by the city, that deposition contains irrelevant personal information, such as Handy’s home address. The deposition was disseminated before Handy had a chance to review it and make any necessary changes, a right the city’s attorneys claim Handy had no chance to exercise.

During the deposition, Handy claimed Margiotta was insubordinate three times, leading to Handy’s vote to dismiss the 16-year city employee.

Keach referred to Handy’s reasons as “really specious and after the fact.”

“The dissemination of deposition transcripts, coupled with [Keach’s] statements to the media concerning the content and veracity of that testimony, serve nothing more than to use the information obtained during discovery in a patent attempt to gain an unfair advantage or leverage in the prosecution of this action and abuse the discovery process,” according to the documents filed by the city’s attorneys.

Part of the protective order would extend to all documents and items produced during discovery that would not be subject to the state Freedom of Information Law.

Keach has requested documents as part of the discovery process involving Margiotta’s termination — such as e-mail communications between the council members about Margiotta — that might not be obtained by a FOIL request.

The city’s attorneys said in the court documents seeking a protective order that members of the media still would be able to report on the litigation and could still try to obtain the material from other independent sources.

Keach said Monday the public has a right to see the deposition testimony, and when city residents see some of what the discovery process has turned up, they will be “justifiably outraged.”

He pointed out one of the four council members, former 2nd Ward Councilman Lance Gundersen Sr., had talked publicly about his reasons for dismissing Margiotta.

In October, Gundersen posted on an Internet message board, “In my opinion, Mr. Margiotta lacked the management, leadership and technical skills his office needed to be efficient. The clerk’s office was chronically behind in the production of meeting minutes, and demonstrated little technical ability to spearhead modern changes in information dissemination.”

Keach said Girvin & Ferlazzo had no problem with Gundersen “publicly denigrating” Margiotta when that happened.

The protective order requested by the city’s attorneys would prohibit Keach from making public statements that the city says violate state law.

A list was submitted by the city’s attorney to show examples of what Keach has said to the media during the litigation. According to the list, Keach described the city government as “a cesspool of incompetence, stupidity and petty politics.”

He described the actions of Mayor Hughes and the council members as those of “a bunch of petty political ankle-biting fifth-graders.”

Keach said the reason for the protective order has nothing to do with the case, but with public officials who are now embarrassed by their conduct.

“[Girvin & Ferlazzo] want to silence the one person who can bring [what the council members did] to light,” he said.

Keach said he will ask Judge George H. Lowe to schedule a public hearing related to the request for the protective order so members of the media and the public can express their opinion.

Keach said he has until May 23 to submit documents in response to the request by the city’s attorneys.

Attorney’s with Girvin & Ferlazzo could not be reached for comment Monday.



Rodney Minor covers Gloversville. He can be reached at gloversville@leaderherald.com.
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2ndAmendement
05-14-08 9:41 PM
sounds like 1930' Germany

RobinWentworth
05-14-08 8:45 PM
The definition of libel was directed at the "05-14-08 12:33 AM" post made by Barbara.

teebzz
05-14-08 1:35 PM
GLOVERDUMP. is there anyone else that comments here using ur name? who commented in Letters to the Editor under "Thanks for supporting Boys & Girls Club"? or are u just in the process of getting drunk as the day goes on. i like seeing normal or sensible posts. but u ruin any reliablity later in the day and its hard to take what u say seriously.

MrRoboto
05-14-08 11:28 AM
Robin also fails to note what any first-year law student, or first-year journalism student, for that matter, could tell you:

the truth is a valid and complete defense against any charge of libel or slander.

GLOVERDUMP
05-14-08 10:43 AM
RobinWentworth libel if you do your homework you would see that a libel lawsuit is one of the hardest case loads to prove in any court of law. Very few have recorded victories. You spend more money in retaining a lawyer. Hence forth this local paper does it it all the time!!

RobinWentworth
05-14-08 8:05 AM
Libel- An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because libel is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. Libel is a form of defamation , as is slander (an untruthful statement that is spoken, but not published in writing or broadcast through the media).

Barbara
05-14-08 12:33 AM
I seem to remember that when voted into a political position, a person gives up a personal life. What they say and do is totally in the public eye. The mayor and coucilman-at-large are both political positions so there is nothing private for any one in these positions. So what Jim Handy had to say should be public. The same holds true for tim hughes too. The way he provides for his girlfriends is a reason to get rid of him too. Then again he had Bill Clinton as a role model.

FREEDOM
05-13-08 9:12 PM
sdoxtater I heard the FBI is investigating the police department' but you know rumers.

FREEDOM
05-13-08 9:09 PM
sorry about the spelling

FREEDOM
05-13-08 9:07 PM
What theyare doing is legal BUT It makes this so called city goverment look like a saturday night comedy,n skit.If there is anyone with intelligence left in the city of gloversville,it's time to get rid of this fool you call a mayor. He has done absolutly nothing to help the city out of this mess that it is in. How many lawsuites has this man caused for the city? Alot.He is to good to have office hours. I have called him around 20 times no responce. I believe he is in office to make a buck off the tax payers for very little service actually no service. He can legally be thrown out of office and should be . Get some one in there with immagiation and amind for ALL who live in the city. This whole situation in gloversville is embarressing to the people who live there.Yet they dont seem to care'because you keep letting it go on.Get rid of that loser.

Yager19
05-13-08 7:31 PM
More suppression of Free Speech.

MrRoboto
05-13-08 7:21 PM
I suspect that two questions will arise from the documents Attorney Keach is requesting:

1) What did Timmy know? and 2) When did he know it.

SDoxtater
05-13-08 7:13 PM
I hear that the majority of city goverment body are going to be taken into federal custody soon! Has anybody heard that one?

skm766
05-13-08 6:30 PM
Alexander is it meth or E? I know you must be on something. When is the movie coming out? Funny thing about your judge Thomas B.Scunziano, when googled only your rant shows up and nothing else. Another one of your imaginary friends? Please TAKE YOUR MEDS!!! Gloversville was once one of the best places to grow up, now I'm scared to visit because of escaped patients like Alexi

Annarondac
05-13-08 4:22 PM
Concerned, please place your righteous self back in the cupboard too. Perhaps we're all not attorneys or have access to the law as you do but he people here are righteously indignant about how the city conducts it's business. It is their right to be so if they choose. Until then, we will have to wait for the courts to decide.

MrRoboto
05-13-08 3:45 PM
I like this Keach guy. His quotes are right up there with Kevin Quinn's, in terms of both poetic eloquence and meter, and downright accuracy:

"A list was submitted by the city’s attorney to show examples of what Keach has said to the media during the litigation. According to the list, Keach described the city government as 'a cesspool of incompetence, stupidity and petty politics.'

"He described the actions of Mayor Hughes and the council members as those of 'a bunch of petty political ankle-biting fifth-graders.'”

LoyalSocialist
05-13-08 2:21 PM
I am soooo glad I moved out of that place. Its so chaotic!

Concerned1
05-13-08 2:03 PM
There is a significant difference between an individual stating publicly what he said in a deposition versus a second party stating publicly what someone else said in a deposition. The first is self-disclosure while the second is criminal disclosure.

As previously noted, all will be presented in court and until then the public does NOT have the right to know anything. The correct term is "right to privacy" at this stage and not "hiding." In later stages of the proceedings, if/when summoned to court, the rights of the attorneys, the clients, the witnesses and the jury are spelled out for all. John Q. Public may or may not get access to every word depending on the ruling by the court.

A little patience, folks. Put your righteous indignation back in the cupboard for now.

FREEDOM
05-13-08 1:53 PM
Alexander I would like to hear more.If the city goverments goal is to make every one leave the city thier doing a good job.

wirlwind
05-13-08 1:43 PM
After reading about the schools and this, I think I'm calling my realtor. I can't afford to live here anymore.

BPJessica
05-13-08 12:44 PM
Shirley Savage isn't on the City Council anymore, is she?

maxone
05-13-08 12:33 PM
I am so glad I do not live in G'ville....

OopsIDidItAgain
05-13-08 12:28 PM
Alexander, you scare me!

reader
05-13-08 11:53 AM
Wrong! When a case is being prepared all parties are instructed by council to keep quiet. Mr. Keach, seeing his case may be lost is using the media to get free publicity. There will be no secrets if and when this case goes to trial, all testimony will be public, where it should be, in court!

MrRoboto
05-13-08 11:01 AM
That the city is trying to prevent the public from having access to information pertaining to the employment of a former employee wouldn't normally bother me--protecting the privacy of terminated employees is something that is covered under state statutes. Except, in this instance, the former employee WANTS the facts related to his employment disclosed!

The city--and, more importantly, Mayor Timmy--engaged in what appears to be gross misconduct.

I think it may be time to begin impeachment proceedings against Timmy Hughes.

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