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Voters reject $50.7M Gloversville budget

Initial proposal voted down for third straight year

By RODNEY MINOR, The Leader-Herald
POSTED: May 21, 2008

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GLOVERSVILLE — For the third year in a row, voters in the Gloversville Enlarged School District rejected the initial budget proposal submitted by the Board of Education.

By a ratio of more than 2-1, voters rejected the proposed $50.7 million budget for the 2008-09 school year Tuesday. The budget would have resulted in a 6.9 percent tax-levy increase.

Now, district residents may be faced with a contingency budget that cuts spending by $4,000 and has the same tax-levy increase as the defeated budget proposal.

School board President Katherine Hillock said the board can adopt a contingency budget — which requires no voter approval — or put another budget proposal up for vote. The school board may decide which path to choose at its next meeting Tuesday.

The district presented revised budgets to the voters with reduced tax-levy increases the last two years the initial budgets were rejected. Those budgets passed each year.

The first 2006-07 budget proposal contained a 6.9 percent tax-levy increase, and passed when the tax-levy increase was reduced to 3.5 percent before being resubmitted to the voters.

Last year, the initial budget proposal was voted down and school officials blamed it on the proposed 1.9 percent tax-levy increase. Voters eventually approved a second budget proposal which totaled $46.8 million and included no tax-levy increase.

Hillock said wiping out the tax-levy increase this year would be unrealistic.

“I don’t see how we could cut the 7 percent [tax-levy increase] from our budget and educate our kids,” she said.

Under a contingency budget, the school district would basically have the budget proposed by the school board, Superintendent Robert DeLilli said.

The main difference would be community organizations would be required to pay to use the school facilities, he said.

A number of cuts were included in the proposed budget. All seventh-grade modified sports were eliminated, three librarian positions were cut, stipends were cut to the advisers of extracurricular clubs and activities, and a general reduction in the number of supplies was expected.

The cuts amounted to about $2 million. School officials said the cuts had to be made because the school district received $118,000 less than expected in state aid, and unexpectedly had the use of $1.8 million in aid restricted to certain programs.

While $200,000 in additional aid was subsequently secured for the district, the school board decided to hold on to the money to secure its fund balance. School officials said the fund balance, between 2 percent and 3 percent in the proposed budget, is supposed to be closer to 4 percent of the budget.

DeLilli said this morning the school board may go back into the budget with the additional aid to determine if any of the cuts can be prevented or if the tax levy can be reduced.

Were the school board to resubmit a budget for public approval, the voting date would have to be determined, he said.

Despite being rejected by a vote of 1,189 to 513, Hillock said the margin of defeat does not matter. The board will consider all constructive criticism when it considers the budget again, she said.



Bus proposal rejected

Voters also rejected a proposal to purchase new buses.

By a vote of 876-728, voters declined to approve the $190,000 bond needed to purchase the two buses. The state would reimburse 90 percent of the money needed to buy the school buses.

Last year, voters initially rejected a proposition to purchase five new school buses. At the time, school board members said the proposition failed because it was on the ballot with an unpopular budget proposal.

Separated from the budget, voters later approved the $400,000 bond to purchase the buses by a vote of 482 to 155. It was well above the 60 percent needed for the proposition to pass.

School Board Vice President Perry Paul said many voters probably do not realize the state will reimburse the school district for almost all of the money it has to spend on the buses.

“It will cost them more in the long run,” he said.

The state Department of Transportation regularly inspects the district’s buses, and those that do not meet the state standard can be pulled off the road or taken off regular routes.

School officials have said a lack of buses would cause routes to be shifted to compensate for fewer buses trying to pick up the same number of students.

DeLilli said he was disappointed the buses did not receive voter approval.

“Ultimately, when DOT pulls the sticker on a bus, we can either lease [a new bus] or buy it straight up,” he said. “But it’s at a cost of almost $100,000 versus $10,000.”



New board member

Former school board member Betsy Simek will rejoin the school board after receiving 1,022 votes Tuesday.

Voters also gave new three-year terms to incumbents E. Lynn Brown (1,080 votes) and Harry Wiggins (951).

Wiggins edged out former board member Joan Oare (948) by three votes to retain his seat.

Board member Gino Calandra did not seek re-election.



Rodney Minor covers Gloversville. He can be reached at gloversville@leaderherald.com.
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MountainMan
05-29-08 10:08 PM
Hey, if you don't agree with what the school board is doing, get on the ballot and put yourself on the hot seat. Oops. I forgot that it requires WORK and giving up a lifetime hobby of being an armchair critic.

If you complain, run, otherwise sit in the shadows and be a coward.

whybother
05-22-08 10:40 PM
I am so happy that Joan Oare was defeated, i cant stand her.

whybother
05-22-08 10:39 PM
Hey Griffin, what about you teaching your own kid how to read, it all starts at home.

lefty59
05-22-08 6:33 PM
Pepperoni, NYS led the pack in standardized testing I believe in 4th then in 8th and of course regents exams I am sure even more than that, I was just saying you don't need 6 billion dollars worth of "materials" from the education industry you just need books

EXGLOVERSVILLIAN
05-22-08 5:26 PM
I hope that the voters will vote with their heads and not the hype on the next go round....NO MATTER WHAT...VOTE YES. These kids need the budget passed. Argue about the rest of the stuff via a different venue

downtownmerchant
05-22-08 10:41 AM
thank you mr roboto, i get upset when people play the "for the children" card. morningstar, you missed my point. businesses and schools SHOULD be the same when it comes to managing their money(regardless of the "product"). the way i see it my business has no control of revenues, they are based on market forces. i am not complaining about that, it is my responsibilty to deal with it. schools have had the luxury of being able to "go to the well" so to speak, and when they meet resistence we get to hear about how insensitive and uncaring we are. that really isnt the case with me, i have kids...i want whats best for them. but i also get frustrated when the general masses have to pick up the tab for bad kids, bad parents, and bad mandated programs.

CommonCents
05-22-08 9:32 AM
Voters are ONLY taking it out on the school districts...no one else...and the reason is simple....it's the ONLY budget you get to vote on

ConcernedMother
05-22-08 9:28 AM
They did not cut out 7th grade sports, they only combined 7th and 8th grade sports. So the 7th graders can still play. Why does the school need so many teacher assistants and teacher aides. I understand that it is required for special education students, but other than that, the teacher, who is paid good money, should be able to handle a group of kids for the day, without another person.

wirlwind
05-22-08 6:03 AM
$6,000,000,000 That's a lot of taxes.

wirlwind
05-22-08 6:02 AM
We were sold a big 6 Billion Reading program that failed. Funded by who? Oh yes, angry sourpusses who don't like their money wasted.

MrRoboto
05-21-08 11:12 PM
Now, I've seen those who want to frame this debate as somehow "hurting the children." Hogwash. The reality is, this is the people telling government to start living as responsibly as they do.

The voters are to be commended. Government is too big. Government keeps spending the people's money without ever trying to cut, without ever trying to reduce the rate of increase.

It's about time that people stood up and said "No" to those who believe we all need to just keep digging deeper into our pockets.

MrRoboto
05-21-08 11:09 PM
Darn right, pepperoni.

Griffin
05-21-08 10:19 PM
Justforfun - don't call me names , I work hard I have a child going into 5th grade next year and he's reading at a 3rd grade level... What are we paying for another assisitant to help him, Well I see it working NOT

Griffin
05-21-08 10:14 PM
Good job voters, still sad to see only that many people voting , I have heard aleast that many worried about the tax bills ? Get out and vote. They kids don't need to lose sports they need to lose trip after trip after trip , and maybe actually stay in school . They need not to cut back not by taking away suppies, sorry I know everyone need to work but , Does the GSD have to pay for it all ! Im truly wondering why 7th grade sports have to be cut, cut an asst. to this or that . The assistant to the assisteant to another assistant and here we are paying all the bills COME ON! We are working people that need and want our children to have good education. The only thing they are learning right now is mom and dad arn't home much anymore because everyone need to get 2 or 3 jobs to pay the way

pepperoni
05-21-08 10:09 PM
Whenever someone says "Let the teachers teach" they are really saying "Let the teachers say and do whatever they want without any accountability." NCLB may be flawed, but not as flawed as allowing tenured teachers to do whatever they want irrespective of the success of their students...

morningstar
05-21-08 9:24 PM
You missed that point entirely. Businesses, while certainly regulated, are in the business of SELLING products or services for a PROFIT. Schools' product is not sold, nor is it tangible except for the fact that people's educations provide them with potential for a decent future- a future that will be shared with the rest of us. Tell me how that is so un-valued around here by selfish, ungrateful, negative sourpusses who blame one mis-organized entity for the woes of a nation?

wirlwind
05-21-08 9:00 PM
mornintstar, Businesses are regulated also. Please, before you post look into what is required by tax law for New York State.

wirlwind
05-21-08 8:53 PM
I knew it would come to this. Blame it on Bush.

lefty59
05-21-08 8:03 PM
NCLB--No Child Left Behind is the motto of the Childrens Defense Fund founded in part by Hillary Clinton. The Bush administration "borrowed" it to market their education polices. Floridian is right it is just another corrupt sell out the materials come from Texas cronies in the education business and they are a joke. One of the lessons instructed 1st graders "in november" to build a sea castle out of sand. Its a Joke, Let the teachers teach.

fenny23
05-21-08 6:33 PM
Snowgrinch, that is all very nice but I don't know of very many employers that offer FULL re-imbursement for prescription drugs for current and retired teachers. Why don't they have copays like everyone else that works does?

morningstar
05-21-08 6:01 PM
Justforfun, you're so right. As I look back at my own blogs, I now see the many typos and I can't believe it except for the fact that I get so upset at the negativity and ignorance that I just miss the errors. Still, I need to be more careful if I am to be taken seriously and stand apart from the dirty dozen.

justforfun
05-21-08 5:02 PM
unfortunately....most people simply don't get it. nobody's taxes are going up 6.9% get some real information before you continue to make complete babbling fools out of yourselves.....darn i did it again...this is the leader herald 'blog' nothing but idiots and fools....all 12 of us.

morningstar
05-21-08 4:45 PM
People are forgetting that school is not a business. Downtownmerchant, I am sure times are extremely tough for you, but you have options and complete control over your spending, your income, and your porducts. How can you aquate that with a school which has restricted spending, no positive income other than to pay for goods and wages, and our products are intelligent human beings that mean everything to us all?? And before any of you negative, nasty cynics jump in to question whether the children of our schools are intelligent human beings, be very careful. If we all look at it personally, you'll have very angry parents!

NCLB was initiated by the Clinton administration and taken to a whole new level by the current one. The reasons behind it are exactly as FLoridian has said. One room; two room; dozen room schoolhouses can't make up for the flounder of our government.

livehereworkhere
05-21-08 4:13 PM
I would like to see what’s going to get cut now. They have already cut 12 coaches removed 7th grade sports and fired 3 librarians. Word has it that they have also let 5 teaching assistants go as well. I’ll bet they keep looking at things that are not state mandated like art and music as well as all after school activities including sports. I know that the masses can’t all afford to put their kids in private after school programs or pay for Y memberships. Back to increasing the number of latchkey kids. Well at least anyone with children looking to move to Gloversville will think twice. No kids at all in Gloversville would take care of the school good and for all.

CommonCents
05-21-08 4:08 PM
optionsmonster, are you going up to help? offer some assistence? Seeing that you didn't the first time, I'll bet you won't this time either. And Joan Oare would have been a GREAT addition to the board.

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