Gloversville eyed as pilot city for program
By KAYLEIGH KARUTIS/The Leader-HeraldArticle Photos
GLOVERSVILLE - Officials from a New York City-based public spaces planning group will visit the city in February to determine if Gloversville could be a pilot location for a national program to revitalize small cities.
City Court Judge Vincent DeSantis said he learned of the Project for Public Spaces, a nonprofit organization, about a year ago. DeSantis said he received an e-mail from PPS a few months ago broadcasting the group's services, and he sent an e-mail back about Gloversville. He received a call from PPS Vice President Phil Myrick, who said he would be interested in visiting Gloversville to determine if the city could be part of a program to reinvigorate the downtowns of small cities.
"I told him about the possibilities in a city like Gloversville, with its traditional layout and small city infrastructure," DeSantis said. "[PPS] is in the process of ... marketing some new techniques and strategies nationally and are interested in Gloversville as possibly being one of the first places where they would try to make inroads."
According to its Web site, PPS is "dedicated to creating and sustaining public places that build communities."
According to the Web site, PPS has worked in more than 1,000 communities, including areas of Philadelphia, Cleveland, Baltimore and New York City, and in Australia, the Czech Republic and Germany. There, it has developed parks, plazas and markets, and redesigned roads and public transportation, among other projects.
DeSantis said Myrick may be joined by Rod Howe of Cornell University. Howe, an assistant director for Cornell Cooperative Extension, said he may attend to offer support to the local Cornell Cooperative Extension office.
"My understanding is [DeSantis and PPS] are interested in taking the next step," Howe said. "They are thinking more broadly [about revitalization], and it has a strong parallel with what Cornell Cooperative Extension does."
DeSantis said Myrick will meet with members of the Fulton County Regional Chamber of Commerce & Industry and other local leaders for a public forum to discuss what options PPS envisions for Gloversville.
Myrick said he hopes to bring PPS' extensive experience in communities of all sizes to Gloversville.
"I'm a passionate fan of upstate New York towns and the potential they have for being wonderful places to live," he said. "We are really just exploring what some of the opportunities might be in Gloversville, and how PPS could work with other participating groups from the community if there is willingness there."
DeSantis said he believes the willingness will be there.
"The people I have told about this said they would definitely be there," DeSantis said. "I hope [city government] would be centrally involved. That is what this is for, to bring them up to speed on what PPS does and how they approach revitalization."
DeSantis said he is unsure how any developments or changes would be paid for. He said it is early in the planning stages of the possible project.
According to the PPS Web site, past projects have been funded by the cities in which the projects take place, by private economic development groups, and by state and federal organizations. The Web site states Myrick is a professional urban planner with experience in projects across the world.
City Planning Board member and Troy city planner Tim Mattice said he is encouraged by PPS impending presence in the city, but cautioned that any impetus for change is in the hands of city officials.
"You can get 100 different people or agencies that are well known and have gotten results doing revitalization, but it boils down to one thing, and that is that the local administration has to act," he said. "You can talk until you are blue in the face, but it's our leaders that have to pull the trigger."
Mattice, who also is a member of the Gloversville2020 group, a group of city business owners and residents with strategies to reinvigorate the downtown through overlay districts and other incentives, said he believes PPS' plans could dovetail well with Gloversville2020's plans.
"I think we are on to something, and this will only support our efforts," he said. "It could create some momentum and awareness, but you have to convince the administration to jump on board and create policies that can actually change things."
DeSantis said he is encouraged by PPS' visit and is hoping it will light a fire underneath business owners and government officials to make some positive changes.
"PPS feels they can really do something here, and hopefully the people of Gloversville will be receptive to that," he said.
Myrick is scheduled to visit the city Feb. 17. An informational public meeting following the visit will be held at the First Presbyterian Church at 6:30 p.m., DeSantis said.
Mayor Tim Hughes did not return calls seeking comment.
Kayleigh Karutis covers Gloversville news. She can be reached at gloversville@leaderherald.com
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lucycat43
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01-31-09 9:22 PM
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No, "We" won't, but the Mayor will.
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resident69
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01-30-09 9:29 PM
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Come to Gloversville! We'll sell you a parking lot!
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resident69
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01-30-09 9:28 PM
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Lakers... the Problem is the elected officials that DON'T DO what the taxpayers expect them to do. They lie to get in office and then do their own personal agenda.... Architect... nice answer... You are next on my list for Mayor... That's when we get rid of his royal highness and his band of court jesters
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TheArchitect
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01-30-09 8:59 PM
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"lakeres" a "constructive idea" that all the "naysayers" have to offer is consolidation of the cities of Gloversville and Johnstown, or better yet, county run government with the removal of all the individual governmental jurisdictions that create many unnecessary and costly layers with little benefits. The "naysayers" you refer to have been discussing these concepts for months. Our current leaders do not have the ability and backbone to make this happen, or much that his positive. We here a ton of excuses but no results.
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TiredOfTax
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01-30-09 1:54 PM
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OK lakers how about working hard to get our schools reports better with higher grades far less dropouts, lower CPS and without the burden of increasing tax that we strive for today! Companies that are looking to relocate look for inexpensive laborers, cheap energy and an area that has the market or can transport to the area of market quickly or cheaply to minimize expenses. So we need to look into giving Jeff Bray something to work with other than hey how about working in Fulton County.
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TiredOfTax
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01-30-09 1:54 PM
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. We need inexpensive energy a willing and able work force (good education!) transportation and the people that know how to work with not against suitable company candidates. Wee need to start by making our schools, cities, towns and county self sufficient. Not dependant on grants or gifts, get a budget and become financially sound. By accepting , looking for and obtaining funds we have been able to build ourselves right out of being able to afford the same without the influx of money, only good until the money stops.
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resident69
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01-30-09 9:11 AM
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FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO START PAYING RENT! sources close to the issue claims is the next bold step for the administration! A potential buyer eyes the parking lot between coty hall and fire department for furniture store! This and you week-end weather at 11
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resident69
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01-30-09 9:08 AM
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NEWS FLASH.....MAYOR FINDS OUT THAT CITY HALL IS OWNED BY THE CITY.... PLANS TO SELL IT FOR $1.00
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resident69
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01-30-09 8:58 AM
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Thanks dogman12, I wasn't sure which DeSantis was mayor. Thanks Cruella. teendude to be like me when you grow up then start volunteering your time... soup kitchens, helping the elderly, playing Santa, donating toy to the marines, donating to St Judes, Make a Wish and the list goes on and on. Save animals for cruelity! Then sit back and complain about bone headed ideas of selling a city parking lot and believing Super wally world will save the city... and do this all before your first cup of coffee :-) I actually see good in this IF, and only IF our elected officials actually do what the taxpayers voted them in for and not their own personal agenda's. Power does funny things to people... NY former Governor and Illinois disgraced Governors are prime examples... needless lawsuits the mayor caused! Do I need to say more?
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TiredOfTax
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01-30-09 7:35 AM
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TheArchitect Exactly my point and without any return except the ability to say "wow aint she purdy"
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lakeres
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01-30-09 7:20 AM
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TO all of you constant naysayers, I'd ask "What constructive ideas would you propose?". You all are adept at criticizing but never offer any positive possibilities. Remember the old saying "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem?"
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Bronte415
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01-30-09 5:42 AM
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What could be done to downtown anywhere in Fulton County that would improve the economics of this area? A case in point, the myriad of lamposts placed along the main street of Fultonville! Lovely to look at and I am sure the light up the night so you can see it from space, but what good did spending taxpayer money on that project do for Fultonville, Mont. Co. or anyone in NYS??????? People wake up! Trying to gild the lily is not going to improve the situation we now stand in. Cudoes for positive thinking, but get real!!!!!
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dogman12
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01-29-09 9:21 PM
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We need more people like Judge Vincent DeSantis in Fulton county ! Glad he's here for Gloversville , and he did have the best peach tree in the state !!! Good work Vincent - Yes his brother was mayor. I think he didn't run again because no matter how good you do as mayor it's never good enough !! HUMANS
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TheArchitect
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01-29-09 8:51 PM
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"TiredOfTax", if your screen name has any representation of your philosphy, then the "new curbs and lighting and flowers everywhere and lots and lots of new stores to shop in" that you would love come at a high cost, increased taxes on those who pay taxes.
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TiredOfTax
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01-29-09 7:32 PM
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Hey FCjobs if you think that some nice guy is going to come to town and clean it up and paint it all pretty then get on his big white horse and ride off into the sunset without charging us a fortune, then go tell you mommy not to let you play with the computer anymore. Or send me a blank check and I will put every unemployed person in the city that is willing to go to work a job. It will likely not change anything at all but hey I give it a try for 70 million $ or so.
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lucycat43
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01-29-09 6:27 PM
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Yeah. As long as Vince can keep them away from the Mayor.
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Adirondackal
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01-29-09 6:03 PM
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Don't sell Judge DeSantis short. He not only talks the talk but he walks the walk. His own properties are model structures. I would like to see the big picture regarding the green spaces etc before I make up my mind, but I am very enthused that he was able to get outsiders interested in our plight.
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Discobulous
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01-29-09 4:03 PM
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I was speaking of the mayor, not Vince, for whom I have a high regard.
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teendude
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01-29-09 2:44 PM
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resident69,when i grow up i want to be just like you.
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cruella
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01-29-09 2:12 PM
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resident69, Post all you want, on anything you want, and say as you please. Don`t ever stop! Freedom of speech!!!!!!
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FCjobs
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01-29-09 2:07 PM
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That last comment was directed at tired - but will do for both
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FCjobs
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01-29-09 2:03 PM
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Why do you live here?
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resident69
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01-29-09 2:01 PM
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FCjobs, I don't comment on every story. Plus this ia actually a good one if it flies. But I do have to point out the stupidity of the administration.... hence selling a parking lot?!?!?
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TiredOfTax
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01-29-09 1:37 PM
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Well this sounds very positive but lets take off the rose colored glasses for just a few minutes shall we. First we will have to pay for it but where is the return? I doubt that the Mr. Elite of Mega corporation is going to move his company here because we built a park? There needs to be a draw for business to come here but somehow I doubt this is not quite the plan. But I would love new curbs and lighting and flowers everywhere and lots and lots of new stores to shop in. Without new and a lot more industry this is all just fluff!
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FCjobs
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01-29-09 12:22 PM
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Resident 69 and discobulous - Do you have to comment on every story? Do you think these guys are interested in taking advantage of you? There are a lot higher paying jobs with less work for them to do that. Let's be positive about our area.
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