I was born and raised in the area, would love to see the area transformed by the draw of a casino, but I think there is a better chance of hitting mega millions. Lake George could handle a casino. They already have the lodging, restaurants, and are a straight shot from Montreal.
I believe that gambling promotes corruption, we have plenty of that already. Remember how the lottery was going to provide all the funding our schools needs... there are a lot of expenses that get that money... a lot! Corruption? You bet. Can I prove it, nope. But can you prove that it isn't corrupt?
I could be wrong but I thought the Tribes already have Casinos upstate. What exactly is this supposed to accomplish? Less property taxes? How? More money for education? I thought Racetracks and the Lottery was supposed to fix that. We still have taxes that are too high. I'm not a gambler but given the choice I'd patronize an American Indian Casino rather than a State run Casino. Lastly, who's going to pay for the land, construction, and operation of these Casinos? We New Yorkers that's who. I'm sure all New Yorkers with a shrinking paycheck will be HAPPY to fund another losing proposition. After all, that's what we do in New York State.
ToT: 'Can I prove it, nope.' That seems to be your life's mantra, at least with regard to your comments. You continue to ignore what is real in place of fear or at least inducing fear to get others to cheer with you.
They will not be "State run" casinos. The proposal would allow casinos to be built. Privately owned and operated. And rschweizer gets a star for that last statement
Ok, I stand corrected..we've already got them. So, do we need more? Will it just move 50% of the existing patronage to a different venue or will it actually cause an increase in the current # of people visiting the Casinos, Racino, or any number of existing gambling venues? I'll poke around and see if I can find some reliable info. It also begs the question 'who the hellz got the money to gamble'????
Gloversville is getting one right next door to the much needed Super Duper Wally World (which will be smaller than Amsterdam's). Where ever wally world builds a casino will follow! lol Why not compete against Atlantic city and Conn. for the dollars flowing out of the state daily. Look at the number of charter companies that go to Atlantic city daily from the upstate area! Why not get a chunk of that change! Of course, the Indian casino's will now have competition to draw the people in.
Mr Bob, your taxes build the new Yankee Stadium...Steinbrenner didn't eat the cost! They claim they will be all privately mobbed owned casinos anyway! lol
MrBoB51 who has money? The ones sitting home living off your hard earned taxes. Maybe this is how Shelton Silver is going to pay to send all the Illegal immigrants to college!
Definitely!! Bring them on! More drinking, drugs, gambling, and prostitution - it sure wouldn't make any difference to the disgusting status of this planet. We might as well live it up now before armageddon.
SO BS this means you have the proof that big oil stole some designs then? Great bring it on!! the rest applies to YOU more than me! "Can I prove it, nope.' That seems to be your life's mantra, at least with regard to your comments. You continue to ignore what is real in place of fear or at least inducing fear to get others to cheer with you"
Back on the topic now that the fools have spoken! It is the same old thing, The state gives with the promise of future income, well the promises have a way of not showing up. Look at Beech Nut, they just received the gift a new plant at a new location and tax deferments to boot... that too is "private"! Now when do the incomes start? Like I said, Corruption! Out taxes continue to go up and they give out breaks to those that are supposed to be the support businesses... the ones that relieve the burden on taxpayers.
Sure bring them on, then I can open a pawn shop similar to Les' American Jewelry and Loan. Everyone can bring in their stuff to get gambling money and I will charge good interest and if they don't claim within the time limit, I will sell their stuff for a profit. Sounds good to me.
For several years the Trump lobby has been out in force to keep casinos out of NY, to protect his Atl City investments. With the economic woes in NYS, I support the casino proposal...more jobs, and revenue. I know some have moral objections, that's their right. Agree with Hill in that the chances of a casino in our immediate area are slim to none!
Your southern neighbor PA made the move a few years ago and there haven't really been any problems. BUT it is surprising how much $$$$ flows in. And no real crime problems. As wea said in this thread and br the then Gov. of PA "Fast" Ed(die) Rendel - Why let the money go to Jersey ??
well it looks like Mr cransville block will get his wish. in case none of you know this. he purchased the amsterdam mall and that 8 story bank on market and main with full intention of building a casino.. so now we know why they redistricted montgomery county....
honorable or not. it looks like jobs for all soon....
I think in Florida the State gets a % from the Indian owned casinos. Too bad NY doesn't get a cut from Turning Stone...although I've heard rumblings that TS is generous to the Verona Sch District and community.
Hilltopper
I was born and raised in the area, would love to see the area transformed by the draw of a casino, but I think there is a better chance of hitting mega millions. Lake George could handle a casino. They already have the lodging, restaurants, and are a straight shot from Montreal.
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TiredOfTax
I believe that gambling promotes corruption, we have plenty of that already. Remember how the lottery was going to provide all the funding our schools needs... there are a lot of expenses that get that money... a lot! Corruption? You bet. Can I prove it, nope. But can you prove that it isn't corrupt?
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usedtolivethere
Now you want us to prove a negative. You never cease to amaze
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MrBoB51
I could be wrong but I thought the Tribes already have Casinos upstate. What exactly is this supposed to accomplish? Less property taxes? How? More money for education? I thought Racetracks and the Lottery was supposed to fix that. We still have taxes that are too high. I'm not a gambler but given the choice I'd patronize an American Indian Casino rather than a State run Casino. Lastly, who's going to pay for the land, construction, and operation of these Casinos? We New Yorkers that's who. I'm sure all New Yorkers with a shrinking paycheck will be HAPPY to fund another losing proposition. After all, that's what we do in New York State.
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rschweizer
ToT: 'Can I prove it, nope.' That seems to be your life's mantra, at least with regard to your comments. You continue to ignore what is real in place of fear or at least inducing fear to get others to cheer with you.
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PleaseGetAClue
They will not be "State run" casinos. The proposal would allow casinos to be built. Privately owned and operated. And rschweizer gets a star for that last statement
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MrBoB51
Ok, I stand corrected..we've already got them. So, do we need more? Will it just move 50% of the existing patronage to a different venue or will it actually cause an increase in the current # of people visiting the Casinos, Racino, or any number of existing gambling venues? I'll poke around and see if I can find some reliable info. It also begs the question 'who the hellz got the money to gamble'????
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taxtired
Sounds like new York City corruption is moving upstate.
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PleaseGetAClue
LOL...REALLY? someone disagreed with my post that merely pointed out they will be privately owned and operated? Come on TOT....Seriously?
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JohnSteady
Gloversville is getting one right next door to the much needed Super Duper Wally World (which will be smaller than Amsterdam's). Where ever wally world builds a casino will follow! lol Why not compete against Atlantic city and Conn. for the dollars flowing out of the state daily. Look at the number of charter companies that go to Atlantic city daily from the upstate area! Why not get a chunk of that change! Of course, the Indian casino's will now have competition to draw the people in.
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JohnSteady
It's better than Hydrofracking and ruining the water supply!
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JohnSteady
Mr Bob, your taxes build the new Yankee Stadium...Steinbrenner didn't eat the cost! They claim they will be all privately mobbed owned casinos anyway! lol
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JohnSteady
MrBoB51 who has money? The ones sitting home living off your hard earned taxes. Maybe this is how Shelton Silver is going to pay to send all the Illegal immigrants to college!
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PeacefulWorld
Definitely!! Bring them on! More drinking, drugs, gambling, and prostitution - it sure wouldn't make any difference to the disgusting status of this planet. We might as well live it up now before armageddon.
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TiredOfTax
SO BS this means you have the proof that big oil stole some designs then? Great bring it on!! the rest applies to YOU more than me! "Can I prove it, nope.' That seems to be your life's mantra, at least with regard to your comments. You continue to ignore what is real in place of fear or at least inducing fear to get others to cheer with you"
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TiredOfTax
Back on the topic now that the fools have spoken! It is the same old thing, The state gives with the promise of future income, well the promises have a way of not showing up. Look at Beech Nut, they just received the gift a new plant at a new location and tax deferments to boot... that too is "private"! Now when do the incomes start? Like I said, Corruption! Out taxes continue to go up and they give out breaks to those that are supposed to be the support businesses... the ones that relieve the burden on taxpayers.
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rschweizer
TiredOfTax, I did show proof and provide a citation; you just ignored it as usual.
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taxtired
Only in N.Y. can we have the government support organized crime to have casinos.
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Scarecrow57
Great Idea, then the Welfare people will have a place to go during the day.
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gville70
The only fool I see is ToT
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Taxedtoomuch
Sure bring them on, then I can open a pawn shop similar to Les' American Jewelry and Loan. Everyone can bring in their stuff to get gambling money and I will charge good interest and if they don't claim within the time limit, I will sell their stuff for a profit. Sounds good to me.
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laker88
For several years the Trump lobby has been out in force to keep casinos out of NY, to protect his Atl City investments. With the economic woes in NYS, I support the casino proposal...more jobs, and revenue. I know some have moral objections, that's their right. Agree with Hill in that the chances of a casino in our immediate area are slim to none!
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drugsrus
Your southern neighbor PA made the move a few years ago and there haven't really been any problems. BUT it is surprising how much $$$$ flows in. And no real crime problems. As wea said in this thread and br the then Gov. of PA "Fast" Ed(die) Rendel - Why let the money go to Jersey ??
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revoltnow
well it looks like Mr cransville block will get his wish. in case none of you know this. he purchased the amsterdam mall and that 8 story bank on market and main with full intention of building a casino.. so now we know why they redistricted montgomery county....
honorable or not. it looks like jobs for all soon....
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laker88
I think in Florida the State gets a % from the Indian owned casinos. Too bad NY doesn't get a cut from Turning Stone...although I've heard rumblings that TS is generous to the Verona Sch District and community.
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