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Should state Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver resign his leadership position over his role in a settlement to end sexual harassment claims against a former assemblyman?

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-06-13 12:05 PM

Scarecrow: agreed...I'm to the point on subjects like this I feel like I have to go look before I say something because they change the interpretation of what is acceptable and enforceable on an almost daily basis..... But in this case it was my own personal experience. At the airport in DC, I was asked "Is this your laptop?" when I said yes, the TSA agent said "come with us please" as I was escorted away by three agents to a secure location with my laptop I asked why? and was told "We can't say yet just come with us".

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 9:35 PM

@PleaseGetAClue - Yes, when i am worn I admit it. This is one of the problems with law in this country, it changes on Daily basis and can vary depending on which judicial district you are in.

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laker88

Jun-05-13 5:50 PM

continued...how convenient and simple that is! So I guess it's all black and white...no one can be "progressive" on one issue, and "non progressive" on another. You can't be "liberal" on one issue and "conservative" on another?? Keep labeling people Bob??...

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laker88

Jun-05-13 5:46 PM

Well well Bob, looks like you're running backward with your tail betwn your legs, and are backing off from an earlier post when you tried to say how "Socialist" I was when I was in favor of repealing big oil subsidies while your right wing friends, namely the tea party, voted against repealing them. So now you're saying "subsidies are not needed by ANYONE"...sure, let's not make any financial assistance available for those who became disabled or who lost their jobs and have a family to raise. I hardly think it is a "progressive" or "socialist" idea to help out those people, while not providing assistance to those who don't NEED it...namely big oil!! So in the fantasy world of Bob, people are either progressive or non-progressive...how neat and simplistic. And the "sweeping, simplistic generalization that I mentioned has nothing to do with "freedom or liberty"...you try to lump people into 2 groups progressive or non-progressive,

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 4:34 PM

I posted the following: "and Scarecrow, I had 4 witnesses to this event, I'd be glad to put you in touch with any one or more of them." and TOT...the person who accuses others of disagreeing based on who posts the message, disagreed with my post...(like she always does on any post from me REGARDLESS of the content) Once again proving what a hypocrite TOT is......what a joke. I hope you realize how stupid this makes you look. Thank you TOT

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 4:30 PM

So Scarecrow...you made a statement claiming that it COULDN'T happen, THEN researched it because IT DID happen? nice.....Thanks for proving I was right.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 4:28 PM

TOT...I misread your post. Sorry about that and unlike you, I can admit when I am wrong. I missed the "Wayne Allyn Root" but even you must know that Root's lies have been torn apart by many reputable sources and were proven to be completely unfounded.....with that aside I apologize for thinking this post was coming from you...I should have known you were never Columbia material (LOL)...sorry

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TiredOfTax

Jun-05-13 1:51 PM

PleaseGetAClue, learn to read before you post as you did it again... no comprehension of the words in the post. Are you the best and brightest progressive there is? Just for you the first line, once again READ!

"Wayne Allyn Root,I am a graduate of Columbia University, Class of 1983.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:39 AM

hxxp://www[dot]wired[dot]com/threatlevel/2007/08/court-says-trav/

And since this highly liberal 9th circuit court ruled on this it is Constitutional.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:37 AM

" MY laptop was seized and searched at National Airport in Washington three weeks ago and no one would tell me why until it cleared their tests...so what you just claimed to be fact is a lie"

Upon researching this I have found that the often wrong 9th circuit out of California Ruled you can be stopped and searched on airport grounds at any time. I suspect the SCOTUS will over turn this.

***********wired****/threatlevel/2007/08/court-says-trav/

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:34 AM

and Scarecrow, I had 4 witnesses to this event, I'd be glad to put you in touch with any one or more of them.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:32 AM

Scarecrow: MY laptop was seized and searched at National Airport in Washington three weeks ago and no one would tell me why until it cleared their tests...so what you just claimed to be fact is a lie

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:32 AM

""Two out of every three people reading this could have your electronic devices searched at any airport, without there being any reasonable suspicion, because the Department of Homeland Security has decided that such search and seizures do not violate your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure"

Actually, you consent to such search as a condition of entering the airport. If you do nto want your laptop searched they cannot seize it, you can simply return it to your car.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:31 AM

Scarecrow, since you have no clue who I am, why in the world would you think I would care about what you claim is your education level??? your education level, you think you are bragging about does not scare nor does it impress me. I have attended Harvard Law school and Cornell University and currently serve on a Governor's advisory committee and have been since appointed 6 years ago...let's meet and talk face to face sometime. Like real people used to do

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:30 AM

" 1) Greg Nojeim, senior counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, said it was alarming that the policies 'don't establish any criteria for whose computer can be searched and when.'"

This is again false. I happen to work with law enforcement folks in DHS and they cannot just seize a laptop and look through it. There must first be an expectation of a crime. What happens is most criminals consent to the search. If there is no consent then a court order is required. Looking at the closed box (the laptop) is much different than monitoring communications. The laptop contains an expectation of privacy. Electronic communications (obviously to a third party) do not.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:25 AM

Continued) "Two out of every three people reading this could have your electronic devices searched at any airport, without there being any reasonable suspicion, because the Department of Homeland Security has decided that such search and seizures do not violate your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure...... Border agents don’t need probable cause and they certainly don’t need a warrant since they don’t need to prove any reasonable suspicion first.....should I go on?

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:25 AM

PleaseGetAClue - that is NOT spin, that is fact. I suggest you google "third party expectation of privacy" This link at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) - A privacy advocacy group - Spells it out extremely well. You may also want to examine the Katz case. hxxps://ssd[dot]eff[dot]org/your-computer/govt/privacy

Keep in mind, I have taken a masters level course in the legal and ethical issues involving computer security and privacy.

Translation, you are being educated.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:21 AM

Scarecrow: example 1) Greg Nojeim, senior counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, said it was alarming that the policies 'don't establish any criteria for whose computer can be searched and when.'

He added: 'They are saying that they can rifle through all the information contained in a traveller's laptop without having even a smidgeon of evidence that the traveller is breaking the law.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:16 AM

That's quite a bizarre spin scarecrow: "Understand, once a communication is disclosed to a third party there is no longer an expectation of privacy." IF the parties Know they are being recorded.... all of the rights you mentioned went away with the implementation of Homeland Security. and deep down inside you know that as well as I do

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:14 AM

PleasegetaClue. ""This is the first administration to openly and "in your face" attempt to subvert the Constitution." WRONG....GWB did a fine job at dismantling our constitution with the Homeland Security act. and THAT'S A FACT"

Again, instead of painting with a broad brush, please show specifically where the Homeland Security act passed by the Democrats and Republicans in Congress and signed by Bush violates the U.S. Constitution. Unless you give specifics it is not possible to address your misconceptions.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:13 AM

TOT....I want to see the proof that you graduated from Columbia (And NOT the Columbia grade school that used to exist on main street in Gloversville) I talked with Obama and he doesn't remember ever seeing you at Columbia University, so it must be true that you didn't really go to Columbia and it's all a big hoax. The ball is in your court to prove it to us all, and if it's not proven then it is clear that you made it all up.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:09 AM

where was all of your outrage about the President dismantling the constitutional rights of Americans when GW Bush and his band of crooks/supporters COMPLETELY dismantled our 4th amendment rights under the guise of "protecting us" with the Homeland Security act?

Please tell me what 4th amendment rights were dismantled.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Understand, once a communication is disclosed to a third party there is no longer an expectation of privacy.

The wire tapping laws (part of USC 18) are laws and not constitutional rights.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:07 AM

Druggs: "This is the first administration to openly and "in your face" attempt to subvert the Constitution." WRONG....GWB did a fine job at dismantling our constitution with the Homeland Security act. and THAT'S A FACT

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Scarecrow57

Jun-05-13 11:05 AM

laker - "Someone says they don't remember seeing Obama there, and thus the grand conclusion...he didn't really graduate from there, it's all a big hoax!!"

One problem here. It wasn't one person, it was the entire class that did't recall seeing him. And really, if this was the graduating class he would have gotten an invite to the reunion. He should have at least acknowledged it.

Evidence has been presented that says Obama never attended Columbia. To refute that claim evidence to the contrary must be presented. Say maybe some sealed college records... ;)

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PleaseGetAClue

Jun-05-13 11:05 AM

I noticed that neither the TOT nor the Druggy answered the question I posed. Just more angry nonsense. and a tall tale from one's alleged college days. And to the TOT, Thanks for the accolades: "You get the respect that you deserve and that is none!" My post got 5 agrees and your one disagree. I guess that says it all about "The respect I get here" thank you

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