I want to know who the person is that thinks we need ot give illegals and prisoners free college while the law abiding pay for their own.
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The only answer here is an emphatic NO! There is no other reasonable way to go.
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Did you hear the latest? They want to give Illegals kids a free ride in college. What are these morons smoking?
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Lets just hope Hile Cuomo does not follow suit as he did with the Gun Law and try to get this ludicrious plan for inmates passed in the middle of the night! We have seniors and children who do not get three square meals a day and a warm place to sleep our schools are hurting but we give this to inmates along with a gym to work out, cable tv, a library anything wrong with this picture Governor!
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"A movement is afoot to split New York into two regions — upstate and downstate — to acknowledge the gaping philosophical differences and improve representation." For the full article, "Secession movement in New York pushes for Big Apple to split from Upstate"' see Washington Times, 2/17/13.
Since you don't read my posts BF, no wonder you're still lost in the conversation. Anybody out there care to help BF out?
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Hill, I think this dichotomy will change the rules as far as Taxes and wealth redistribution is concerned, mostly in NYC. Many of the States 'Authorities' are unique to NYC and those entities scare mentioned will be ours to reckon with. A split like this will not be seamless and without distractions from every direction but if we are adamant and enough people think this is the future, we can accomplish anything we set out to do. NYC can have all the Multiculturalism it wants and New Amsterdam will keep our Upstate heritage intact.
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So that's a no then - you don't know where to find the details of this plan?
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"Do you favor all of NYS north of Westchester splitting from NYS and becoming a new state called "New Amsterdam"?"
Absolutely. Liberal policy has devastated areas like Fulton, Montgomery, Herkimer, and Hamilton counties. First piece of business, eliminate the APA and the Hudson River Regulating District.
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One state, two autonomous governing bodies, sounds way too good to be true. The only hitch is that NYC pays more in state taxes than it receives in benefits. However, if those benefits are trimmed back in our neck of the woods, as intended, it won't be an issue.
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Thanks for the example of typical liberal thinking BF1...you don't know anything about the subject, make a heroic assumption then claim to have arguments against it. Silly lib.
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Where can I find the details of this plan? There must be more to this because on the surface, it is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. The number of arguments against this idea are exhausting just to think about.
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I'm in Hill, but part of the problem is the more we are informed the more Albany will ignore us. Ironically, that may also be part of the solution in that ignorance is bliss right up to the time it smacks you in the face, then it's too late.
It's ok for Emperor Cuomo to illegally take our gun rights away? Now he's taking our tax money to pay for piece of trash rapist and drug dealers to have college? I say NO. Let them get a student loan like I did. I'm still paying it back after getting a four year degree. Lets all vote to succeed from NY and move to live here in New Amsterdam. To bad there aren't any politicians with any kahunas.
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Next poll question: Do you favor all of NYS north of Westchester splitting from NYS and becoming a new state called "New Amsterdam"?
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I was just reading about a new democrat plan to give every baby born in the US a $500 savings account... just throw the money in the creek it will be just as useful as any of these great giveaway plans!
Hill, great catch. I too like the New Amsterdam idea. The way they're going about it is so unique it may actually work. Ok, now those who are interested in this topic can search 'Secession Movement in New York' then read the Washington Times article. This idea is spreading to Calif. but with 6 separate States. I wonder what could be causing this? Perhaps its 30 States, as of 1/2014, support a Constitutional Convention. I'll bet good money that in 2016 there will be an Article 5 Convention. First to install a Balanced Budget Amendment then on to States Secession issues. Interesting times are afoot.
BoB: prison "grads" going to the head of the list to fill an affirmative action quota or a civil service position with total disregard of the applicant's history is where this is going. I can only guess what classes will be offered; most certainly none of the STEM subjects where there is a shortage. New Amsterdam sounds better every day. Work applications no longer ask your age to prevent discrimination, but they still ask your ethnicity because that type of discrimination against "other" is encouraged by the government.
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The Gov. should be putting his efforts in creating jobs and making NYS attractive to outside businesses. He should increase the war on drugs, and clean up the inner cities of gangs and violence and leave responsible gun owners alone!
With the feds involved they are picking everyone's pocket, not just the homeowner, making it the less of two evils.
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One other thing, where is the 1 person who said YES...? I want to see them defend this lunacy.
" College kids are covered under their parents' insurance until age 26"
And there is part of the problem with ACA. Since we have these wonderful exchanges with subsidies for those who cannot afford it, anyone over the age of 18 should be responsible for their own insurance,. Change that part of the law now, it only benefits the rich,.
Hill, whether the money comes from Local taxes or Fed taxes it's still YOU the Taxpayer always footing the bills. With the Feds involved there's just a lot more 'shells' involved in the game. I have a question that hasn't been asked yet. How trustworthy is a prison educated felon in the first place?
Better than coming out of my property taxes; College kids are covered under their parents' insurance until age 26. I guess after 26 you're not considered a kid.
Ahh, now I know where the rest of my increase in health care costs went. I hope they send a thank you note. Just sent my $2300 in for college for my kid, I think I might have a few more dollars for the prisoners, after all they need it and I don't. I wonder where the Rammen noodles are?
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